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Welcome to Wrexham: And why pro/rel is or isn’t a non-starter in the US

why pro/rel is or isn't a non-starter in the US

In this episode, World Soccer Talk hosts Christopher Harris and Kartik Krishnaiyer discuss Welcome to Wrexham, the successful FX series, and discuss why pro/rel is or isn’t a non-starter in this country. We also discuss the issues of ownership, community, TV coverage for lower leagues, as well as what makes this series different than the other two popular soccer shows, ‘Sunderland ‘Til I Die’ and ‘Ted Lasso.’ We also take a tangent and discuss whether it’s possible for the US Soccer Federation to set up its own breakaway soccer league in the United States in competition against Major League Soccer.

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  1. jason

    September 17, 2022 at 1:11 pm

    The Sportscenter gimmick segment Rob and Ryan did in this past week’s Welcome to Wrexham was classic! It is for sure the best soccer documentary series I have seen to date surpassing Sunderland’s now.

  2. jason

    September 17, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    I like Welcome to Wrexham myself. The whole TV/Streaming situation will take care of itself if they get promoted to the EFL 4th division. Got a good feeling Wrexham will win the 2023 5th division National League championship.

    Also think that Wrexham (and other National Leauge clubs) could look to USL Championship to recruit players.

  3. dave

    September 14, 2022 at 7:09 pm

    Great discussion! A nice companion to Kyle’s interview with Humphrey. A few reactions:
    * Chuck Blatter is a hilarious misspeak, though it is sad that one of the most compelling stories about soccer in the US is the corruption and outsize influence of “Mister 10%”
    * 1999 Women’s World Cup is near, if not at, the pinnacle of compelling US soccer stories. Ties into themes about Title IX and the growth of women’s sport in the US and globally
    * I enjoyed your discussion about pro-rel. If the goal is for MLS or NWSL to independently agree to pro-rel, I probably side with pundits who dismiss it as a non-starter. But MLS and NWSL are USSF sanctioned while also out of compliance with the spirit of FIFA rules that competitive success must be the main determinant of new entrants to a top league (the core driver of MLS/NWSL expansion franchise awards is money and local market potential)
    * Cone has very positively surprised me – USMNT is younger and more Europe focused, USWNT is changing the guard and more open to Europe, contracts acrimony seems to be peacefully resolved in a fiscally sensible manner, USSF no longer rely on SUM, USSF no longer sell rights with MLS, etc. It seems USSF is focusing on what is best for soccer in the US rather than how US Soccer can serve long-established power centers
    * It is not 100% clear pro-rel is better for soccer in the US (particularly not women’s soccer and NWSL where median pay only recently rose to not need a second job). But if Cone and USSF decide pro-rel is better for soccer in the US, might they have tools to spur it?

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